RomanB Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I would like to verify that your Digilent 240-127 will be able to capture USB 2.0 HS (480 Mb/s) bus traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygot Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 If you want to capture USB bus traffic you need to buy an instrument designed to do that. I've not seen anything to suggest that Digilent sells these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanB Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 Asking if this Logic Analyzer, which is specified as 800 Mbps can capture USB HS 480 Mbps digital signals. For USB FS (12 Mbps) I use a 50 Mbps Logic Analyzer, capture the traffic, then run the binary file through protocol analyzer software. The question, again, is if this device can capture 480 Mbps data on two signal lines (D+ and D-). Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygot Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I see that you still don't have an answer. That may be because no one knows what product you are talking about. I get no hits for "Digilent 240-127" on the site search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanB Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 Thanks for the suggestion. That is the SKU number shown on the datasheet for the Digital Discovery: Portable USB Logic Analyzer and Digital Pattern Generator SKU 240-127. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygot Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 @RomanB, I haven't used this instrument but I read through the literature. I'm doubtful that you can use for capturing traffic on the DP and DM lines for a number of reasons. The most important ones are that the Digital Discovery isn't meant for differential signalling. A bigger hurdle is that USB 2.0 uses the UTMI signalling standard that is quite complex; there is no Xilinx IOSTANDARD that I know of that is compatible with UTMI. A bigger problem is that asynchronous sampling of a 480 MHz signal with Fs = 800 MHz doesn't quite do the job. Could someone make an adapter for doing this? I'm not sure. I'm reasonably certain that direct probing of an active DP/DM lines would be problematic. But as I mentioned there are companies that do provide USB bus analyzers, some at reasonable prices, though not for what Digilent charges for the Digital Discovery. In general you can't replace very expensive things with very cheap things and be happy with the results. There are exceptions, for a limited set of use cases, where you might be able to break the rule. Perhaps someone at Digilent will take the time to look into your question but I'll be surprised if you get the answer that you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygot Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Some interesting information: The datasheet for the Digilent Digital Discovery lists the FPGA device as a XC6LX25-2C5G324, a -2 speed device. According to the Switching Specifications for this device: Fmax for BUFH is 375 MHz Fmax for BUFIO2 is 500 MHz The maximum PLL output frequency is 950 MHz The maximum LVDS ISERDES2 (retimed mode) data rate is 750 MHz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I would like to verify that your Digilent 240-127 will be able to capture USB 2.0 HS (480 Mb/s) bus traffic.
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